21.6.16
Rainbow Sherbert
I'll now give my ice cream analogy to show what isn't stated, isn't automatically prohibited.
If a man talks about vanilla ice cream, that's doesn't mean he thinks strawberry ice cream is a bad flavor, he just didn't talk strawberry ice cream (let's say vanilla was first and strawberry wasn't created yet). Now if this same man specifically stated; "Vanilla ice cream is a good flavor AND strawberry ice cream is a bad flavor," you could can say, without question, strawberry ice cream is a bad flavor. But you only believe strawberry ice cream is a bad flavor just because it isn't vanilla ice cream. Making a flavor bad when it isn't even mentioned.
Now I want ice cream.
18.6.16
Red Carpet
This is what I see. People like Anderson are now making what Brown says about homosexuality more acceptable, more palatable. Anderson is an aberration, a hate-filled human being who believes gays should be killed and go to Hell. But Brown also believes gays are going to Hell unless they repent of being a practicing homosexual. Anderson makes no apologies and has no sympathy for the dead in Orlando, while Brown gives his sympathies to the dead in Orlando when he went after those same gay people when they were alive. His message on homosexuality doesn't seem so bad now when compared to crazy Steve Anderson or attention whore Roger Jimenez. Brown is now the lesser evil, Anderson and Jimenez were the Trojan horse.
Brown can't even help himself agreeing with the supposed future "persecution" of how Christian talk to homosexuals and gun control laws. Both agree gays are going to Hell, it's just Brown who doesn't believe they should be killed to get them there. These two and I include all other anti-gay religious leaders also, are on the opposite ends of the same prism that excludes gay children from the table of the Most High God.
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I spoke to my husband about the shooting last night. I wrote what I wrote in response to a list of Christian leaders who now all of a sudden come out like squeaking mice offering their prayers and sympathies and I say it here again:
As a gay man and Christian, keep your condolences and sympathies to yourself. They are not needed or wanted and that includes their followers."
Franklin Graham is now included who of course only talks about the shooting as a result of a "Godless Nation" when he is one of those who's made the atmosphere toxic for LGBTQ, deflecting even a little responsibility he might have.
Compare his response to Catholic Bishop Robert Lynch:
"Sadly it is religion, including our own, which targets, mostly verbally, and also often breeds contempt for gays, lesbians, and transgender people. Attacks today on LGBT men and women (from us) often plant the seed of contempt, then hatred, which can ultimately lead to violence."
I read an article that said many Christians are genuinely surprised at the angry response they are receiving from the LGBTQ, like they somehow had something to do with it. You did.
12.6.16
What did you just call me?
11.6.16
Pentecostal Confidential
After I posted this, I received word Laurie edited his church page. This is what he deleted:
"God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality."
I never delved into the tale of Frisbee because it's a sad one. His story took place in the time of the flower children of the '60s, how God used him in founding some of the most influential Pentecostal churches (Calvary Chapel, Vineyard) around today, and how he was run out on a rail (sound familiar?), blotted out of church history, and left to die of AIDS outside of the churches that once embraced him.
I could go into Brant Baker who mirrors Lonnie's tale or the oddness of the Paul Cain case, but that is for another time on a cold night with hot cocoa my child.
"I first heard the gospel message from him (Lonnie) and responded when I was 17. As did thousands of others around the world. He helped father three great moves of God. Did you know that when he was last in Africa, ten young men gave their lives to Jesus Christ? And that those ten men each went out from Lonnie's meeting and started ten churches each? And that a "Jesus People type" revival swept across Africa as a result of those churches? How many souls can say that you first brought the gospel message to them?"
- David Sloane.
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When I quoted the above from David when I first wrote this post in 2016, I left out the last part of his quote that said; "... Were you there when he told me that he had been deeply wrong in his prior conduct and "was now paying the price for it?"
Now David was talking about Lonnie's homosexuality. The implication being because Lonnie was gay, AIDS was the price he paid for it, a sentiment apparently shared by Lonnie himself from some alleged audio tapes Lonnie made before he died (even if Lonnie did do this, it doesn't take away from the fact God worked through him while still being a gay man and not after). I tried to make David look good b editing the first quote talking only about Lonnie's missionary work in Africa. I wanted to keep out the disagreement I had with David on the last part of what he said, but this is what I wrote back to him on the entirety of his quote:
"He was used mightily of God, but he was a practicing homosexual and this showed God used A GAY MAN, not a FORMER gay man, not a NON-PRACTICING gay man. Lonnie was never to find peace with his homosexuality because of those around him like Chuck Smith (Smith is a whole other story) who loved and used his anointing, just not the homosexuality that came with it. I noticed in defending Lonnie you couldn't leave out the shot how he felt he was "paying the price" for what you probably believe was his homosexuality when instead it was the price for promiscuity. Why was he promiscuous? Because Lonnie believed a same-sex relationship couldn't be blessed by God. He reaped the fruit of what he was TAUGHT.
There is a move of the Holy Spirit with calling God's gay and lesbian children to the table as they are and a moving in "straight" churches with God telling them "These are mine also." It's too late for Lonnie, but he's in Glory seeing what is happening with those of us like him and praising God."
David actually wrote me back when I was eating cereal with this:
- David Sloane.
Now David sounds dandy, but I looked up "Meri Crouley" and yet again we find another "Prophetess," with a talk show no less, and who's her favorite guest? Walid Shoebat. Let me familiarize you with some quotes from Mr. Shoebat:
"The homosexual movement is the most hateful and most vile group in all of the Western world. The sodomites are supremacists; they believe that they have the superior lifestyle, a disposition and constitution more superior than the “others,” who they consider as inferior breeders. This is the ideology of sodomism."
"Sodomism is the ideology of homosexual superiority, in which the homosexuals desire to usher in — through propaganda, violence and state coercion — a utopia in which homosexuality is seen as a supreme ideal, and those who believe in the conjugal union as is affirmed and established by the Christian Faith, are viewed and treated as enemies."
"We are deliberately neglecting this ill called the sodomite and his pernicious goals, all in the name of tolerance and a feigned Christian love. Love is not about accepting everyone they are, it is often enough about purging the wicked to preserve the innocent. To outlaw the sodomite, would be to protect children whom the sodomite is pursuing to recruit for their demoniacal scheme."
OUCH!
I like to believe David didn't know the opinions of Walid on homosexuality, otherwise, I doubt he would have brought up the show that gives him a platform for these views. Only David knows. Crouly is a hoot, but to have such a poisonous person, a man avoided even by other anti-gay Christians like James White, is without excuse.
I'm sure this post is only interesting to those with a Pentecostal bent, but I try to keep my brethren in the news because nothing is ever going on with Pentecostals other than the rent and blaming demons for cakes coming out of the oven lopsided.
9.6.16
6.6.16
31.5.16
Franklin On A Soggy Roll
False:
link *
It actually IS the weather. Stores always stock items early. Like Xmas in September. Target stocked their summer clothes in March, and it wasn't until mid-May that warm weather hit most of the country.
Correlation is not causation. That's probably why Walmart (Christian founded and based), Sears, Costco, Kohl's, Macy's & Nordstrom ALL had their stock prices drop between 4/27 and 4/29 - the exact same time frame that anti-gay hate group AFA is citing to claim their boycott was a success against Target stores. Apparently so successful that it caused EVERY SINGLE other retailer to suffer a similar drop over the same period.
*In case you can't link, Franklin and other religious conservative groups called a boycott on Target department stores because of there stance on transgenders using bathrooms. Stock prices did fall, but Target corporate said it had nothing to due with the boycott and cited the reason above. These boycotts have actually helped companies. When a boycott was called on Starbucks for their support of gay marriage, stock prices rose 7.6%. When Albert Mohler called a boycott on Disney (all these companies I name here had a boycott in relation to the LGBTQ). the boycott was an utter failure with Robert Parham, founder and former executive director of Baptist Center for Ethics, admitting:
As for ending the failed boycott (on Disney), the SBC has two paths. One way is to redefine the boycott. The SBC can claim success by saying it faithfully condemned sin, defended the American family and testified to God’s will. Emphasizing spiritual matters instead of economic ones, faithfulness instead of effectiveness, the boycott will be declared a victory.
Another way is silence. Unable to admit failure, Southern Baptist leaders will ignore their earlier pontifical threats and hope that rank-and-file church members forget their bombastic statements. Like the three monkeys, SBC leaders will speak no failure, see no failure and hear no failure. The boycott will quietly disappear from the SBC agenda.
The moral of the story may be that self-righteous chest-thumping brings no real social change."
Franklin likes that hoodoo that voodoo doughnuts do |
25.5.16
Visions or too much spicy Thai before bed?
The exchange with the French 'ex-gay' started me thinking about this issue of visions, prophetic dreams, and God speaking directly to people like he believed in what happened to him. Now as a Pentecostal, these are very real and very much from God as a person coming from this background. The Bible backs me on this (Acts 2:17).
But all these spiritual manifestations have to jive with the Word of God or they are
n o t h i n g.
There is also a real danger when interacting with the spiritual realm because there is the possibility you may not be dealing with God or his messengers, but the other guy and his ilk. Even Paul said if an angelic being appears to you while you're taking a shower (the first red flag is someone coming to you while you're in the shower) and tells you something that seems to be contrary to the Word, the visitor is from the other guy who NEVER has your best interest in mind. The fact Paul gives this warning says it can happen, Paul didn't DO hypotheticals.
My Pentecostal side of the denomination isle is a perfect example of those who like to believe they have their toes dipped into the spiritual pool over other types of Christians, but somehow embrace more spiritual heresies at the same time (Latter Rain, Manifest Sons of God, Oneness, Shepherdship Movement, and different incarnations of the prosperity doctrine are all heresies that stemmed from the Pentecostal church, not to mention the scary "revival" meetings like the ones in Brownsville and Toronto). My poor Pentecostal brethren, always stretching to hear the voices of Angels while ignoring the cries of men, is another danger of having a foot in the spiritual realm than the one of flesh and bone dealing with other beings of flesh and bone.
False dreams and prophesies can do real damage. The assistant Pastor of my church felt like he had a prophetic calling to start his own church. He did and it failed, miserably. It left him questioning everything. God was not behind this, but from him, it was an honest mistake with thinking it was from God and it's an example of how you can really convince yourself God is talking to you. This can go from the greater to the lesser of us. You have some like a YouTube "Prophetess" who had a vision from God of California having a major Earthquake because of all the homosexuals being busy with homosexuality in the state. Well, guess what? Seismologists who don't get visions from God have been predicting a major Earthquake for years because we haven't had smaller Earthquakes and now it's built into one big one coming to me soon. Of course when it happens this "seer" will see it as her prophesy coming true and people in the Bible Belt will be in awe of her while running away from the tornadoes they'll say God didn't send them. From the looks of it, all you have to do is have a YouTube account and you are ripe for all kinds of visions from the Lord. The problem is the visions don't match up or directly contradict visions others have had and that makes many people liars, delusional, or both. The Bible says if a prophet of God is wrong even once, they aren't of God and they are to be killed. There is no wiggle room with this and it shows how lightly so many believers take this subject when God doesn't.
"And the LORD said to me: “The prophets are prophesying lies in my name. I did not send them, nor did I command them or speak to them. They are prophesying to you a lying vision, worthless divination, and the deceit of their own minds."
Jeremiah 14:14.
Maybe we should step away from the dreams and prophesies till we're grounded in the Word of God FIRST. I'm talking about really being solid in it to where we can tell these multitudes of self-professed prophets who dream dreams to shut up and sit down with what isn't from God because this has turned into a jumbled mess.
"The life of a man consists not in seeing visions and in dreaming dreams, but in active charity and in willing service."
- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.
Her visions gave her an Excedrin migraine.